and i think it has been an educational experience -- >> stephanie: has he apologized? >> caller: many times, yeah. and some of it sounded sincere, and others sounded scripted but he has talked many times, and it sounds like he has actually learned something -- >> stephanie: yeah you know, paula i think it is good that this has become such a story, because even listening to that audio where him, it sounds like such a throw-back that kind of reflexive homophobia that you hear in these macho circles but in the past you know? >> caller: i don't think he has actually ever thought about it and once this came out, i think the coach and other people have sat down with him, and i think he has begun to realize what a stupid thing it was to say, and of all places san francisco. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: but, you know, the -- the team has been really good about that. and i might point out that while that one player from the ravens is wonderful, of course he went to school and grew up in northern california some of his teammates were against marriage equality, so it go